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Picture this: You're buying a new car from a Chrysler dealer, and they say you can get another $200 available from the factory on your purchase. Send me a copy of what my client signed and it is always this: “Chrysler Group LLC - Employee Advantage - Friends Program Pricing & Acknowledgment Form.

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• I've bought/leased 7 vehicles in the last 8 years using an employee purchase programs including two T&C Tourings.
  Most rebates are directly to the consumer. The sales price is usually the employee plan price for the vehicle. Add tax, title, and plate fees, then subtract any rebates. So, take about 10% off for the employee price for that van. Add in your state's sales tax and licensing fees, then take off that $4k rebate. I don't know how CG is handling the free DVD this month. It probably is an extra $1100 rebate taken after you pay sales tax, but could be discounted into the sales price.
  That said, in Metro Detroit you should be able to get a sales price $1-2k under the employee price before any rebates. I got $2k extra off in the form of dealer cash before sales tax on both my 2005 & 2007 minivans. You should ask for a sales price at least $1k under Chrysler employee pricing.
• My lease is up on my Chrylser vehicle and it's time to get a new one. The last time I got a vehicle my sales person sold me a chrylser employee number because the person who was going to give me one wasn't able to. I really need a number, but can't afford to pay $100 dollars for it like last time. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
• edited March 2015

  Hi,
  just heard a story about a friend, of a friend, of a friend.. who bought a Town & Country ( dont know what model exact ). Price was $27000 and he paid $17000.
  He got whole bunch of discounts including Chrysler Employee Discount. Is this possible to beat the price down for 10Ks?
  How can I get employee discount number? Is there any way to buy it from somebody???
  Thanks, Derrick
  [Email removed]
• edited March 2015

  Just curious if you ever ended up getting an EC number? Im willing to pay for one if you know someone who you got it from last time or anyone else to contact?
  Please let me know. I'm in a huge bind, the person that was giving me one, ended not being able to.
  [Email removed]
• When Cerberus completes its majority purchase of Chrysler, Daimler will still own 20% of the new Chrysler. Will Chrysler employees, retirees and their family members still be allowerd to buy/lease Mercedes-Benzes on the Chrysler Employee Purchase Plan?
• edited March 2015

  Hello,
  How can I get an employee discount number? I hear employees have 2 they can give out each year. Do you know of anyone?
  You can email me at [Email removed]
  Thanks,
  Brandy
• Hi, I just leased a grand caravan yesterday under the employee discount program. My Wife's Uncle works for Chrysler. The salesman gave me the discount without any control number. I signed the lease, and I have had the van for over 24 hours now. I got a hold of the uncle, and he gave me the control number. Come to find out, nieces are not eligible for the discount. The sales man said I need to get a number now, and I should get a hold of someone who works for Chrysler to get one.
  my question is that since I already signed the lease for this amount, isn't it all said and done now. Or do I still need to get a number to keep my van at this price. I would think that if it was submitted without the control number, and I signed the lease I should be in the clear now, and not have to pay the extra 1600 price difference. Any advice I can get would be great. Thank you.
  Matt.
• I will be purchasing a T&C this weekend or next. We test drove the T&C, Toyota and Honda. Like the look of the Honda more - but the features and price of the T&C can't be beat!
  We would be very greateful for a Friends and Family code. Many thanks in advance.
• Hi, I am a mom of 2 kids with another on the way. We were doing fine with the used car we had bought, until we found out our completed family of 4, is soon to be a family of 5. My husband and I are struggling and to make matters worse we will have to get a new car. Anythings possible, but it would be so awsome if we could somehow obtain a chrysler employee discount. I dont know if this is a possibility :confuse: or how those discounts work. but we would be able to pay for it, as long as it didnt cost too much. Does anyone know of a way to get one, or if you can even use an employee dicount without being an employee. If anyone could help us out with this in any way I can assure your the effort will be unbelievably appreciated. Thank you so much and God Bless!
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• edited March 2015

  I am hoping a Chrylser employee can help me. I want to surprise my wife with a new car. Se really loves the Sebring convertible, the only problem is that it is a bit more than I can afford even at the discount the dealer gave me. I would be so grateful if some generous chrysler employee could give me an EC code. It is our 20th anniversary and a new car for her would be something we could talk about for sometime. My thanks in advance for a quick response. Please email me at [Email removed]
• Looking to order a 2009 Caravan this weekend.. If anyone could send me a PIN, I'd appreciate it.. stuff {at] urbl {dot] net .
• What is the difference between these Chrysler Control Numbers.
  EP-
  FP-
  EC-
  Thanks for your help!!
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• edited March 2015

  Hi everyone,
  I just got back with my two girls from looking and pricing out a 2009 Dodge Caliber. I love it, it fits me and my girls perfect. I was hoping that a kind soul could pass on to me a Chrysler family and friends discount code as the sales guys says that if I come up with that number or code it will cover the $2000 that I am short on making a deal. My girls and I would be ever so greatful if someone could help.
  Thanks in advance
  Here is my email address [Email removed]
• I, too, am looking to purchase a Dodge Caravan and was looking for an employee discount code? Any help? Thanks!!
• 'As an employee familiar with employee purchase programs I know that GM, Ford, and Chrysler routinely audit their employee purchase programs to find rule breakers. GM’s tactics seem extreme but I’m sure it is meant to scare the hell out of future employees willing to roll the dice. You would think that selling a car is better than letting it sit but they have to draw the line somewhere.'
• edited March 2015

  Hello,
  I would like to ask a favor of a generous Chrysler employee for a a discount code, I'm leasing a new Dodge Ram this weekend. I hope someone can help me out. Contact me at [Email removed] Thanks for your help
• edited March 2015

  Hello,
  I would also like to ask a HUGE favor of a generous Chrysler employee for a a discount code, I'm leasing a new Jeep Wrangler and I would be so grateful if someone could help me out. I can be contacted via email at [Email removed] THANK YOU!!!
• edited March 2015

  Hello, I have had my 98 jeep for the past 12 years, I put over 250,000 miles on it! and at the worst time possible the frame decided to snap while going down the road which also caused my front axle, tire tire rod and control arms to bust as well.. I don't have enough cash to get a new one without some help.. if there is someone out there that can help me out with an employee discount, I will also throw in a gift to show how much you are appreciated! please contact me @ [Email removed].. Thanks so much!
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• edited March 2015

  I could and would use one. I have a 2009 Dodge Ram and I am looking at a 2011 Dodge Durango. My email address is [Email removed] if you could help I would appreciate it.
• Yeah, I am planning to purchase a dodge challenger by the end of august or september. you're help would definitely be appreciated and reciprocated
• edited March 2015

  Hello, I have been a loyal Dodge/Chrysler owner for the last 25 years and want to purchase/lease a new 2011 Dodge Durango. I currently own a Dodge Journey, need something a little bigger plus I miss my last Durango and Chrysler Aspen. Wondering if anyone could help with a Employee Discount number? I surely would appreciate any help and would return the favor somehow.
  Thanks to such great American car builders!!
  Can be reached at:[Email removed]
• edited March 2015

  Hi,
  I am looking for a huge favor- I am in the process of trying to buy a 200. I would love and truly appreciate if I could have someone's employee number. Please contact me at [Email removed]
  Thank you!!!!
• edited March 2015

  Do you still have an employee number? I will send you a gift of appreciation. Please email me at [Email removed]
  thanks!
• I am looking to lease another town and country and could really use a Chrysler employee number/CDI? Can you help?
• edited March 2015

  Looking to purchase within next two weeks. Do you have an extra employee control number? Please contact me at [Email removed].
• edited March 2015

  I am a four-time Chrysler leaser and I am in the market for a new Grand Cherokee very soon, if you have a discount code, I would be very appreciative. [Email removed]
  Best,
  Mike
• I am looking to lease a Jeep GC. Can someone please send me an employee number to use.

Picture this: You’re buying a new car from a Chrysler dealer, and they say you can get another $200 available from the factory on your purchase. Then they ask you to sign a document which contains a binding arbitration clause.

In the last few months, I have had several lawsuits with Chrysler run into this snag: The attorney for Chrysler calls me to tell me that my client signed a binding arbitration form. My clients never remember doing any such thing, which is understandable. At the time of purchase they are buried under a flurry of paperwork, most of which is not explained or described in any meaningful way. Sign this, initial here, and so on.

So I ask opposing counsel to send me a copy of what my client signed and it is always this: “Chrysler Group LLC - Employee Advantage - Friends Program Pricing & Acknowledgment Form.” My clients are never employees of Chrysler, nor friends of any. Apparently they are just “friends” with the dealer. Or is it the salesperson?

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Underneath that heading is this sentence: “THIS CONTRACT CONTAINS A BINDING ARBITRATION PROVISION WHICH MAY BE ENFORCED BY THE PARTIES.” While that sentence is in ALL CAPS, it is in smaller font than the top part. In exchange for signing this form, the buyer gets the car for 1 percent below factory invoice. The deals I have seen these on are not hot cars. If this was a Hellcat, I’d understand. But on a Dodge Dart or a Chrysler 200?

Some clients were told that they were getting a really good deal because they were getting the car “for less than [the dealers] pay for it!”, as if the dealer was losing money on the deal.

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That $200 is used as the bait to get the buyer’s signature, which costs the buyer their right to sue. Ominously, the contract warns the buyer that if they violate this contract—presumably by filing suit—then there will be dire consequences. They may be terminated from “the Program.” Yes, you will no longer be their friend.

There are two things to understand about this deal. First, anyone can get one of these cars for less than dealer invoice. As car buying guru Tom McParland points out:

One percent under invoice is a joke. Even if you forget about the crappy cars that Dodge has to give away like the Dart and the Journey and just focus on something that is actually popular like a Charger the average sale price according to TrueCar is about $3500 under invoice or about 10%. Of course TrueCar’s “estimated savings” isn’t always super accurate, but their “average paid” price relative to invoice for a specific vehicle in the national market is a good data point for comparison.

Chrysler Employee Advantage

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For the full explanation, see this. But rest assured - this isn’t a deal only available to employees and “friends.” And, for this sub-par deal, you sign away your rights to sue under the Lemon Law. You do get to arbitrate, but you will do that in a forum chosen by Chrysler using rules written by Chrysler.

We asked Chrysler about this and here’s what they told us:

The Friends and Family discount provides customers with a 1 percent discount below the dealer invoice; depending on the price of the vehicle this is a discount greater than $200.

By signing this form, consumers are informed that, while they may not sue the Company over the vehicle, they maintain the ability to resolve potential issues through either our customer assistance center or their dealer.

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Can you solve your issues that way, or win the arbitration? Sure, but your outcome is less predictable and has none of the safeguards of the court system.

So, negotiate your best price. Read everything you are asked to sign at the time of the sale. And, if you see an arbitration clause, run away. It cannot help you and is not worth the pittance they are giving you in exchange for your signature.

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